Young Living vs. doTERRA: Why I Ditched Both of Them
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If you use essential oils, you’ve likely wondered which company is better: Young Living or doTERRA. Since these two essential oil brands are the big giants in the industry, and both claim to be the best, it makes sense to wonder which of these powerhouses is the better choice.
In this post, I’ll look at both companies in a different way than most other writers on this topic do. I worked with both companies, but now I work with neither. Read on for my thoughts, including some information I’m pretty sure you’ve never heard before.
When I started using Young Living oils, I was pretty excited about our results, but later had second thoughts about ethical issues regarding the founder. So, I decided to try doTERRA.
There were some good things about the oils from both companies, but as I dug deeper, I soon ended up in the middle of a complicated mess.
Following are some basic points comparing doTERRA vs. Young Living, but we’ll also get into the weeds that led me to the conclusion that I came to.
Side note: please know that while I am sharing a lot, I’m not sharing the entirety of my concerns with these companies because some companies are eager to sue, and I don’t need that in my life.
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Ways Young Living Excels
While doTERRA and Young Living share a lot of similarities, there are some ways that Young Living stands out.
Variety
Young Living has a lot of oils to choose from. They sell at least 270 singles and blends, while doTERRA carries approximately 140.
So basically, if you want to address something with essential oils, Young Living likely has what you want.
Longevity
Young Living has been around for a long time, and they are often credited with having a lot to do with the popularity of essential oils today. That doesn’t mean their oils are better than other companies’ oils, but I like to give credit where credit is due.
Problems With Young Living
Reputation and Ethics
Again, Young Living was a big part of making essential oils mainstream, which is something to be applauded.
However, there are some pretty not-so-savory things that have been written about D. Gary Young. Of course, the internet isn’t always reliable, but I still think these things might be worth paying attention to.
Gary Young has been accused of lying about healing from the oils and making misleading statements related to the sourcing of Frankincense oils.
OSHA Violations
OSHA is the Occupational Health and Safety Administration, a government agency in the US that aims to ensure safe working conditions.
While looking into both companies, I found out that Young Living has 20 OSHA violations, with 10 being called “serious.” That sounds really bad, but Young Living has been around for a long time, so they’ve had more time for violations to occur, and all of the violations appear to be about the same incident.
Of course, OSHA violations don’t mean that a company is bad, and some people consider some of the OSHA violations to be ridiculously stringent, but in this case, the lid of a distilling vessel blew off, killing the man who was working right by it.
If Young Living cleaned up its procedures correctly, then it’s possible that its new procedures would be better. However, it’s still worth noting.
When I first published this post, I didn’t find other companies having OSHA violations. Of course, I didn’t look into every single oils company, However, but doTERRA now has a violation that you can read about below.
Non-Indigenous Plants
A good number of Young Living’s farms are located in the U.S. I think that’s fine for a company being more “in control” of their product, but not great if you follow conventional wisdom that plants grow best (and have the best therapeutic qualities) when they are grown in their indigenous locations (where they are supposed to grow naturally).
If you read through the comments of Best Essential Oils Parts 2 & 3, you’ll see that Young Living reps tout the fact that YL farms are in the U.S. as being an advantage, due to Young Living having control over the whole growing process.
Perhaps, but other companies like doTERRA and others source their oils from wherever the plants grow naturally for higher quality.
Misleading Effectiveness Claim
In Young Living’s enrollment package, there was a Thieves® Oil brochure referenced in this study. It was cited to address the superior therapeutic value of the oil blend.
I was curious to see the exact results, so I looked them up. What I found, however, was that the study was done on generic eucalyptus oil rather than on Thieves oil.
I reached out to Young Living’s headquarters and got this response:
Thank you for your email. Unfortunately we cannot comment on any
research articles or provide this information as it would be in direct
violation of FDA regulations. You may want to contact Life Science
Publishers at 1-800-336-6308 or www.lifesciencepublishers.com and Sound
Concepts at 1-888-285-6317, 801-225-9520 or
www.essentialproductinfo {dot} com. These companies both carry several
items or research that contain useful information concerning essential
oils and supplements and may be able to assist you further.
While in a sense, the “proven to work” claim was accurate, their blend wasn’t tested. In my mind, this is shady marketing.
Possible Chemical Smell
When evaluating oils from different companies, we did a “smell challenge” with my not-so-specially-trained Smell Testing Panel (a.k.a. my family).
Of course this wasn’t an official spectrometry test, and none of us is a certified aromatherapist, but we noticed that Young Living seemed to have a chemical (synthetic) overtone.
Does that mean there were synthetics added? No, but we still didn’t care for it.
Unknown Country of Origin
As of the 2018 update of this post, many or all of the oils from Young Living do not have a country of origin indicated on the site.
Illegal Sourcing of Oils
In 2017, Young Living was caught illegally sourcing rosewood and spikenard oils between 2014 and 2016.
However, this whole topic is very confusing because Young Living turned themselves in and there are more details to consider.
Misleading Seed to Seal Claim
Many Young Living reps claim that their products are superior due to the company’s Seed to Seal practices. However, as you can see from the illegal sourcing of oils above and the information below about sourcing from the same places that doTERRA does, this claim is not accurate.
Problematic Spiritual Associations
In 2022, Young Living sent out the book My Word Made Flesh to many high-ranking Young Living distributors. The book was co-written by Robert Tennyson Stevens, who runs a company called Mastery Systems, and Vonn Harting, a Young Living Royal Crown Diamond. Mary Young (Gary Young’s wife) wrote the forward.
The book had a lot of questionable content, including a passage that encouraged people to basically do a “seance with oils” in which they would repeat, “I am the resurrection and the life of my lineage.” Of course, in the Bible, Jesus calls himself “the way, the truth, and the life,” and says “no one comes to the Father except through me,” which made this book problematic for many.
The book was apparently removed from the internet, but you can see The Word Made Flesh here for now so you can see what caused all the hubbub.
Ways doTERRA Excels
Education and Support Network
While both companies have a lot of educational resources, it seemed to me that the support network available with doTERRA was stronger.
Testing Transparency
doTERRA, unlike Young Living, shares GC/MS test results on its website. Yes, essential oil testing can be falsified, but it’s a more transparent situation than Young Living has.
Indigenous Plants
doTERRA claims that all of their oils are from plants grown in indigenous areas. I haven’t looked into this completely, but if it’s the case, their oils should be of higher quality than Young Living’s.
Problems With doTERRA
Following are concerns that showed up about doTERRA years ago, but also a few that are more recent, with one of them being quite disconcerting.
OSHA Violation
While other sites claim that doTERRA has no OSHA violations, as of July 2024, that simply isn’t true any longer. Note that after writing this section of this post, I see that doTERRA’s name isn’t on this page, but the internet search information associated with this page indicates that it is connected with doTERRA.
Workers In Vulnerable Situations
In 2023, an investigation into poor employment practices, including substandard pay and unsafe working conditions, by a doTERRA supplier was launched. During the investigation, workers were told to “change their stories ‘or face the consequences'”.
doTERRA claims on its website that every oil it sells is “responsibly and sustainably sourced” and that it’s their “top priority to protect the environment during the production process and provide fair treatment of all harvesters and growers.” However, in this case, doTERRA didn’t protect the women involved, and they were left in fear for their safety. To be fair, Emily White was quoted as being distraught about this situation, but there are no reports of this being resolved in a positive way.
Odd Marketing Claim About Oil Scents
One thing I really like about doTERRA is their educational resources, and also, their oils smell great.
But their great smell is part of what concerns me.
A lot of doTERRA reps (and corporate employees as well) say something like, “You’ll know it works by its smell.”
A quote from doTERRA’s website: “A 100% pure therapeutic-grade essential oil should have a balanced, broad fragrance profile and should smell crystal clean.” I don’t know about you, but I don’t know what “crystal clean” means.
And is “crystal clean” what you want your oils to smell like? I’m not so sure about that.
Organoleptic testing is something that many essential oil companies and experts do, but it’s harder for the typical consumer to do. And it’s quite possible that a consumer will be aiming for something more pleasing, rather than what an oil actually should smell like.
No Definitive Answer About Peppermint Oil Distillation
Essential oils are distilled by putting plant parts and water in a distiller and, under low pressure and low temperature, removing the oils from the plant.
The oils travel down a tube and into a vat. The oil collects on top of the water and is then removed.
The most coveted and most expensive (and thought to be the most therapeutic) oil is that which is collected during the first part of the distillation period, which is called “first distilled.”
This “first distillation” apparently only applies to ylang ylang oil, but possibly to peppermint oil as well.
doTERRA’s peppermint smells good enough to eat, as in “candy cane” good. So yummy, in fact, that if you have kiddos in the house, you’d best keep it out of arm’s reach.
But is that a good thing?
Most peppermint essential oils smell like the peppermint you find growing out in nature, which is herby and not like candy canes.
Candy-cane-smelling peppermint is apparently, according to several sources, possibly from a redistill. Either that or some components are taken out (meaning these are adulterated oils) to give the oil a clean pepperminty candy smell.
Is doTERRA’s Peppermint a Complete Distillation?
This is the email response I got from doTERRA stating that their peppermint oil is a complete distillation.
You can let her know that our Peppermint uses complete
distillation. There is 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and complete and we use complete.
If the first distillation of peppermint oil is the most valuable (and there is really a first and later distillation of peppermint), then their peppermint oil might not be top quality.
If there is truly no such thing as more than one distillation of peppermint, as many say, then why is doTERRA stating that there is a 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and complete distillation of peppermint?
In one video, one of the founders of doTERRA stated that their peppermint smelled amazing because it was from Washington. However, many other peppermint oils are sourced from Washington as well, so doTERRA’s isn’t special for that reason.
Then later, a representative told me that the doTERRA headquarters said that the peppermint smell was different because their oil is distilled only from the leaves and the flowers.
The most disconcerting part of this is that I couldn’t get information from doTERRA themselves about WHY their peppermint smelled the way that it did.
Inferior Quality Ylang Ylang Oil
doTERRA prides itself on having high-quality standards and top-quality oils. Their ylang-ylang, however, is a complete distillation. Some may say that this is a matter of preference, but in the essential oils industry, the first distillation of ylang-ylang is absolutely more valued and therefore a higher-priced oil.
To their credit, doTERRA is transparent and does call their ylang-ylang a complete distillation on their website.
Ylang-ylang first distillation (which is referred to as “extra”) is typically considered to be the quality of oil that is most sought after and is of the highest therapeutic quality.
Ingredient Labeling Problems
Thanks to Kitchen Stewardship, I found out that doTERRA at one point didn’t disclose all of the oils in their bug-repellent blend. At the time she wrote that post, the label stated that it was a “proprietary blend.” No thanks. Not including ingredients on the label of something that you are going to be eating or putting on your skin is a big problem.
Thankfully, doTERRA now discloses the ingredients of their Terra Shield blend; however, at the time that I initially wrote this post, that wasn’t the case.
Lower Quality Frankincense Oil
I often get questions about doTERRA’s pricing for their frankincense Oil as to how it compares to other brands, with people citing that doTERRA’s appears to be less expensive.
The reason for this has to do with the composition of doTERRA’s frankincense oil. Most companies sell either just one variety of frankincense oil or several varieties, but doTERRA’s frankincense is, at least as of August 2016, a blend of different varieties.
Following are the types of frankincense in their blend:
– carterii (typically the least expensive)
– serrata
– frereana
Sacred Frankincense is typically one of, if not the most expensive varieties of Frankincense oil, so if you compare doTERRA’s Frankincense to another company’s Sacred, doTERRA’s will likely come out to be cheaper.
Lack of Country of Origin Transparency
As of the 2018 update of this post, all or many of the oils from doTERRA did not have a country of origin indicated on the site. This is interesting, especially since the company and/or its reps repeatedly say that they can’t get organic certification due to it being hard to get it in the countries where their oils are sourced.
I heard from a reader that there is a source map for doTERRA oils, but I couldn’t find it. I did, however, find one page that shows sourcing for Spikenard and Petitgrain.
The map shows that their Petitgrain Oil is sourced from Paraguay. Other companies have organic Petitgrain from Paraguay, so their claim about organic oils being too hard to source just doesn’t seem to make sense.
Undesirable or Unknown Ingredients in Other Products
Some of doTERRA’s other products have ingredients I don’t love.
For example, doTERRA’s On Guard toothpaste used to contain titanium dioxide, a metal that I initially thought I should avoid due to the possibility of heavy metal toxicity. I’m not that worried about that now, but it’s an unnecessary ingredient, so if it’s at all in question, why use it? Thankfully, that ingredient is gone now. To be fair, it seems that doTERRA has cleaned up a lot of their personal care line.
However, initially, when I wrote this post, they had PEG 100 in their Deep Blue Cream. Now, there’s no complete ingredient list on their site, so I don’t know what is in there.
They also used to have carrageenan (which, depending on the form, is thought to cause inflammation) in their capsules. Right now, when searching “carrageenan” on their site, some capsules come up in the search results, but I can’t see why that is because the ingredient list doesn’t seem to be complete. I think it’s fair to assume that they still contain it.
Misleading Portrayal of Earning Possibilities
At some point, direct sales companies have to produce an income disclosure statement so that those interested in selling with the company can have a realistic idea of how much money they can (or, in this case, likely won’t) make.
doTERRA’s top income disclosure chart here seems to show that there are some great opportunities with doTERRA, but it is misleading. It shows some impressive income levels, but you have to notice the fine print that it’s only for top-ranking leaders. To see a more realistic (and not very enticing) view, you have to look at the next chart, which is farther down on the page.
Young Living, to their credit, spells it all out in this Young Living Income Disclosure statement.
It’s important to note that the earnings with both companies are reduced by fees to redeem your reward points or even to get paid.
Smaller Oil Selection
When I first wrote this series, doTERRA had very few oils, so if you were looking for a company that could be a one-stop shop, then it wasn’t a great option.
They’ve increased their selection over time, but Young Living still has the advantage here.
Problems with Both Companies
As you can see, when comparing Young Living vs. doTERRA, there are ways in which each is better than the other. However, there are also some negatives that both companies share, mostly due to them being MLM essential oil companies.
There is, however, one particularly odd thing that I found out about both of them.
Young Living and doTERRA Source from the Same Companies
Both companies claim to have a corner on selling the best oils, so it’s very problematic (for both of them) that they appear to share the same source for at least some of their oils.
Bio Young Aromas
See the following sources that show that Bio Young Aromas is a supplier for both Young Living and doTERRA.
- https://www.seair.co.in/us-import/i-doterra.aspx (Sadly, it appears that the information about Bio Young is now behind a paywall.)
- Here, however, is documentation showing other purchases from Bio Young by doTERRA.
And here are some Bio Young Aroma purchases made by Young Living.
Kunshan Toxen
doTERRA and Young Living have both purchased from this company as well.
Here is documentation showing Young Living purchases from Kunshan Toxen.
And here is documentation showing that doTERRA purchases from Kunshan Toxen as well.
Basically, despite their claims of being the best, neither company seems to be that special if they are purchasing from the same companies.
I personally am not opposed to the multi-level marketing industry as a whole, but it is important to consider whether essential oil MLM companies are worth it or not.
Conclusion
Both Young Living and doTERRA have some good qualities, but clearly there are a lot of problems with both of companies.
My Preferred Source of Essential Oils
I hope to revisit this topic soon, but for now, you can see what happened when I started looking to find a quality essential oil company that I wanted to purchase from.
I started this whole series after spending some time working with both Young Living and doTERRA, but I left both of them and tried to find out what the best essential oil company was.
I plan to revisit this topic in the future and hope to have additional options that you can feel really good about buying.
What do you think about doTERRA vs. Young Living?
Which do you think is better and why?
Good article…I’ll have to go back and read the first 3 parts. Let me be honest and say up front I’ve skimmed your article as it’s already past my bedtime, but as I’m finishing up my certification program in aromatherapy I can tell you that essential oils – if you’re buying reputable products – are either certified organic or wild crafted. So if any company is selling anything other than that, it’s because it’s their choice.
Also, in reference to the CPTG testing that doTerra implements, that’s not recognized by the industry standards for quality control of pure, unadulterated essential oils…I’m not even for sure what it is and I believe that it’s an internal testing method. Aromatherapy schools and professional essential oil companies who teach about and sell only certified organic or wild crafted essential oils are backed with GCMS certification, which is the industry standard.
Also, the National Aromatherapy Holistic Association sets the standards for professional aromatherapy education. I’m currently studying through Aromahead Institute and upon my completed studies I’ll be certified as a clinical aromatherapist. Some of the reputable EO companies are Aromatics Int’l, Stillpoint Aromatics and Mountain Rose Herbs, just to name a few.
You are correct in your assumptions that the aromatic plants grown in their own indigenous countries are the most pure and therapeutic…not grown here in the states. In addition – even in their indigenous settings – the chemical constituents can change in the same species of plant depending on the time of year harvested, how much rain was received, or any other changes in the environment that are prone to happen from time to time because of Mother Nature whims.
I have many more things I could add but you’re probably already tired of my ranting lol…thanks for your diligence in seeking out the truth.
Thanks for reading and no, I’m not at all thinking you are ranting! I will add that Mountain Rose Herbs was not doing any testing for years. I don’t know what they are doing now but they finally did some testing and found multiple adulterated oils. Thanks again!
Sourcetoyou.com is doTerra’s 3rd party testing site. You can enter the code on the bottom of your bottle and get results for that exact batch in your hand. No other company offers this. APRC is doTerra’s (and many other companies 3rd party testing). After the oil is distilled, a sample is sent to them, if it’s 100 percent pure doTerra accepts it. Then after it ships to doTerra another sample is thoroughly tested by APRC. doTerra also does it’s own in house testing to assure it’s 10it’s 100 percent pure.
First of all, thank you for doing all of the work and writing presented here and in your other posts! I have recently sent an email to doTerra asking them to delete my profile and membership (haven’t gotten a reply yet). The more I read about doTerra’s prices, so called “certification” (which in reality is just a registered trademark), health advices, and the more I read about MLM-structure, I decided I don’t want to be part of or support any of it. There are so many other places and companies to buy from, and I am also interested in buying as much organic as possible.
I just wanted to add something to your number 6. “Country of origin.” I found this “map” and list, it’s a Norwegian website from one of the doTerra-sellers here. But the main subject of the post is possible to understand even if you don’t speak Norwegian. Here is the link to it: http://www.gaverfrajorden.no/source/
Thanks! I have seen sourcing maps but they are confusing. I hope to dig into this more in the future–thanks for reading!
I bought from an organic company called melaluca. Their claim is that a multitude of these oils came from the exact same manufacturer. So young living, doterra, and melaluca all came from the same company but the others had a much higher price. If you go on you tube and look it up I’m sure you can find it. I love all the products from that company, they just had a large price tag and you had a monthly minimum order. It may be something that’s worth looking into if you are still interested.
Hi Amy–thanks for reading and commenting. I have some friends who sell Melaleuca. I have seen some information about that as well–from several sources. I would suspect it isn’t all of the same sourcing for all of the same oils but I mentioned that in this post too–if you go back and see I touched on it. Hope to see you around again!
I love the story behind doterra. About the certified organic is a problem for me because the last time I checked the companies are only required to be 70% organic to get the label. So not sure of that is awesome.
Hi there. I would love to hear what about the story you love. About the organic, actually there are different kinds of labels re: organic.
1. There is 100 percent organic
2. There is organic which is at least 95%
3. Made with organic means at least 70%.
After that you can indicate which ingredients are organic with something like an asterisk.
Hope that helps. I didn’t understand the last sentence of your comment–can you explain, please?
Hi, I am loving this series, thanks. About the “organic” issues. Organic certification is issued by the FDA and the USDA. FDA makes the Guidelines and USDA enforce/certify. That would mean that all products sourced outside of the U.S.A. cannot be certified, yes there are many agricultural products sold in this country that are certified yet from another country. Like all American laws, there are loopholes, if the farm is owned and operated by an American company or if the farm is involved in a sourcing program regulated or tied into USDA and there is always the possibility of more shady concepts such as American companies that own organic certified farms here but outsource to other countries when supply is needed. Also, other countries do have their own certification process, which is where you see the organic products from other countries. Now, why can’t Doterra follow the steps to become certified? Whole other thing but I do believe it has more to do with the fact that for that particular company its just not worth the investment of legal fees, paper pushing, marketing campaign, and product redesign. They seem to do just fine without it.
Thank you for reading. Actually you can certify them in other countries. I have heard mixed things on this….one company states that getting things certified isn’t that expensive. I think it depends on the certification company, etc. But some of them are quite reasonable from what I have seen so I’m not sure what to think. I would like to find out more about this and would love to hear more details from doTERRA.
You might want to check into when plants are harvested which might have something to do with the way it’s distilled. My thinking is if the plant is harvested at its peak the quality of the oil when distilled is going to be first distilled. As a opposed if it was harvested after peak season. It might also have something to do with the quality when the plants where harvested. If they didn’t get enough sunlight or water, it will effect the grade of the oil. There definitely a science to it. Another thought is they might add new plants to a batch that’s already been distilled making it a second distilled. Kind of what I do with my tea bags. I know I can get another cup of tea from it because it’s that strong. Or I would add a new tea bag to the one I’ve already used. Hope this shedds some light on this topic.
Hi there. Basically the distillation is very complicated but also simple. Some are saying that peppermint can be distilled twice while others are saying no, but there was never any assertion that it was more than peppermint and ylang, etc that were being distilled any way other than one way. Hope that helps. There are some comments on the posts that address this and I believe I updated the posts. Thanks for reading! You might want to sign up for updates as I hope to revisit this: https://wholenewmom.com/10-things-you-need-to-know-about-essential-oils-before-you-buy/
so have you ever did any thing with earthroma oils let me know
I haven’t looked into them. Sorry. I would check this post for quality standards you can review for any company: https://wholenewmom.com/health-concerns/pure-essential-oils-testing/ . I hope to come back to this topic in the near future–you can get updates here: https://wholenewmom.com/10-things-you-need-to-know-about-essential-oils-before-you-buy/
I was really looking forward to your review on Mountain Rose Herbs. I’m not sure if I missed something, or you didn’t cover that company in depth. I read through all of you blog posts and it seems like everything was about YL or doT.
Hi there – I stopped talking w/ them at the beginning of the process since they told me that they weren’t produced in a food grade facility. I was of the impression that that was important so I stopped there. They also said that they didn’t test their oils but instead trusted their suppliers. Years later they told me that they had tested oils and found a number of adulterated oils, including organic ones. Since then more things have come to my attention so I’m not recommending them at this time. I hope that helps. I hope to revisit this topic soon–you can sign up for updates here: https://wholenewmom.com/10-things-you-need-to-know-about-essential-oils-before-you-buy/
One fact you’ve brought out in one of your articles I disagree with. With Young Living you’re not required to buy or sell $100 a month. To stay active as a rep it’s $100 in a whole year.
Your not required to with d?Terra either.
if you want to receive a commission from DoTerra, you need to spend at least $100 a month. It is one reason why I won’t become a rep.
Thanks for sharing the information!
I have tried 2 different brands – Doterra and Twenty8 essential oils. Twenty8 is based in New Zealand and is 100% organic (No petrochemicals, No chemicals, No artificial Colours, No artificial aromas, No mineral oils used in their products). Even after following dilution guide, Lavender oil of Doterra gives me and my husband bad headache. We love Twenty& oils and blends in diffuser and topical. The effect is evident and feels like it is a high quality product. Maybe because it is so well produced (organic, chemical free, etc) we smell and feel the difference. I have heard that based on the quality of irrigation (floods affecting country of origin of the oil production) affect the smell of oils. A regular or an expert person using it will smell the difference.
Lavender comes under ‘top note’ category (aromatic note classification -top, middle and base). So it quickly evaporates and is light in aroma. But the Doterra lavender is quite dense. Also some of the blends of Doterra are quite strong. Not to forget Doterra is big brand as a MLM. They are trying to get more products in the market using essential oils. I use their daily supplements and that is effective. But for using essential oils I would prefer a genuine organically produced oils than Doterra who is more business minded.
It’s a pity that I cannot buy more Twenty8 oils because the custom charges are quite high. I live in Belgium.
You are so welcome! Hope to see you around again–interesting comments on lavender oil for sure.
After reading this, I would like to know which company you went with?
Thank you,
Emily
Hi there – thanks for reading! I just updated the bottom of the post to make it more clear where you can find the company that I decided on. Please let me know if that makes it easier to find and would be interested in hearing what you think!
So it looks like you went with Rocky Mountain Oils? I am not in it for the business aspect, but only am concerned with the quality of ingredients and the quality of the process used to make the oils. I noticed that your Frankincense is almost 1/2 the price of Young Living’s. (I only purchased 2 oils from a friend and am just getting interested in all of the benefits of other oils). How can it be so much less? Is the quality the same, if not better at Rocky Mountain?
Yes, I did. Which Frankincense were you looking at w/ RMO? And which w/ Young Living? There are different types.
You are nothing, but a person who didn’t site any real.pear reviewed research and a scammer yourself.adrienna. all of your sources magically dissapeared. You illufed every question every person asked and provide zero back ground on your expertise. Let alone real research. Then, you are tying to con people into your rock Mountain business. Man, your a bad con artist at best. A bad one.
Hi Ryan. I’m puzzled by your comment on a number of levels.
1. What peer (that is how it is spelled) reviewed research did you want me to post on this topic?
2. Why do you think I’m a scammer?
3. The sources that disappeared–what sources are you talking about?
4. I assume by illufed you mean “eluded”? What question would you like me to address. There are some questions I can’t answer due to concerns for anonymity or legal concerns. Otherwise I would venture to say that I am one of the most honest bloggers out there–willing to go back on things that I found out I was recommending that were wrong. Perhaps you should stick around my blog for awhile as you will see it happen again almost for sure.
5. I never said that I had expertise on this topic. I am an investigative style mom blogger who digs for information. I don’t say this to toot my own horn but I know things about many topics that most do not know only because I tend to dig deep.
6. I don’t have a “rock Mountain business”–I am an affiliate for them just as almost every single blogger is an affiliate for Amazon and other companies.
Please do explain. I would ask that you try to give me the benefit of the doubt next time, however. Thank you. May I ask if you are a representative for Young Living or doTERRA?
I first started out with young living, then they upped their mom monthly purchase for their points system. I found it too stressful to meet the requirements, so I canceled my membership. I started with doterr. My main complaint is having to buy a kit picked out by them to start. While I knew what oils I wanted. But couldn’t order the equivalent amount in the items I preferred.
What I would like to see is a loyalty system without the pressure to buy monthly. I feel like they’re trying to scam me. Just makes me loose trust, when they have to make you commit.
Right now I am looking for a high quality oil without the pressure to buy every month. I feel like a fish on a line!
thanks for your info and time!
You are so welcome! You can get a loyalty program with the company I recommend: https://wholenewmom.com/announcing-the-best-essential-oils-company-and-a-great-sale/
and right now you can get a free oil w/ purchase: https://wholenewmom.com/whole-new-mom-healthy-living-deals/
Hope that helps!
You should take a look at Plant Therapy. They have an entire kidsafe line that was made in collaboration with Robert Tisserand. Unlike doterra and young living, plant therapy posts their third party GC/MS reports right on each product page and it’s listed by batch number. Ylang ylang complete actually has more therapeutic benefits than its first distillation.
Hi there. Yes, I looked at them when I started this process and didn’t go w/ them for several reasons. I hope to revisit this issue hopefully in the not too distant future. In the meantime, if you’d like to sign up for updates you can do so here: https://wholenewmom.com/10-things-you-need-to-know-about-essential-oils-before-you-buy/
I’m inundated with other personal and professional things but I have started working on this again as I have been able.
Thanks much!
I don’t trust MLM companies, and I use to be a distributor for Jamberry, SeneGence, and Norwex. I had a horrific experience with Monat, and then my SeneGence company started selling the same toxic hair products. I swear by essential oils, but I view MLM companies as scams so I did a lot of research on which non-MLM company had the best quality essential oils. I came across Rocky Mountain Oils and Plant Therapy Oils. They are both really great quality oils so I buy them both. Mostly the organic ones, bit if they don’t have the oil I need in organic then I go with the regular.
Hi Brittany. A lot of MLMs do have issues. Of course, there are issues w/ non MLMs too and I have had to remove both from my blog. I’m confused about your comment about SeneGence and toxic hair products. Did you mean the same products as Monat? Thanks!
I’ve been using YL for a few years now. I have zero complaints. Where some see the issue with court case as a negative. I see their response to the situation as a positive. They were forthcoming, open, made the necessary changes so that there were more checks and balances to stop it from happening again. They were so transparent during the whole ordeal that the judge made comments about it in his final notes. Isn’t that the same as your statement of ‘admitting when you’re wrong.’ That was considered a good quality no?
The farms may be visited by anyone at any time. My daughter has been to several. She sees first hand and has taken part in the planting, harvesting. The hand weeding. The distillation process. Observed the batch testing and grading.
Items go out of stock. If it doesn’t make the grade it doesn’t get sold.
I know that YL frowns upon unsubstantiated claims. You can’t control individual people, just like you can’t control the Safeway produce helper either. What comes out of people’s mouths is out of HO control. They are told what they can and cannot say though and there are consequences for not abiding by the rules.
Network marketing is not MLM – just thought I’d say that.
Also, I have seen first hand the ethical nature of Young Living. I was more impressed by it than anything else. Many YL members have been touched by the fires of late. YL was there to help and stand by their people. It’s a good company. And people who work hard – and no, I don’t sell the product – They do very well for their efforts. I would much rather help support a young mom raising kids than a box store. Any day.
I will not speak of DoTerra because I do not use their oils.
Hello there. Can you tell me what you mean by “network marketing is not MLM” please? Thanks!
Young living has great eco-friendly packages. DoTerra still ships on plastic.
The number of oils on YL is great!
The FDA approved YL oils make me more confident to put those in my body. They are great for cooking!
I still love some of the DoTerra mixtures… and the little capsules
Hi there – my understanding is that the Young Living labeling for foods is not an approval but a necessary thing that Young Living had to do in order to get them labeled for food usage since you can only have 2 uses indicated on each label. In other words, it doesn’t indicate purity.
When did the FDA approve Young Living Oils? I do not think the FDA has approved any essential oil company as of 12-1-2018
My understanding is that they simply allowed a separate label that has internal use on it since the FDA will not allow more than 2 uses on any given label.
Hi,
Thank you for your hard work, it is appreciated very much. I have spent half the day looking behind the scenes of doTerra and Young Living before deciding which of the two to go with?However, in the process have learnt a lot about both parties of which I am not going to say here.
But, what I will say here is that, it is so important to do ones own research then make an informed decision based on the facts rather than believing every word that others tell you on the internet or word of mouth! Next, take some time to think about it whether it is worth your time, energy, resources and money to invest in or not!
Initially, I was looking to purchase a kit from doTerra and excited about the potential of earning free oils plus cash…, then, I called my sister…
She made some negative comments to me about doTerra and recommended that I go with Young Living. I found myself rather conflicted between the two which led me to spend my morning and free time looking closely at both sides…
My verdict for now is that, I will leave the door open, and see where this journey leads! I believe there’s always a right time and place for everything under the sun.
Again, thank you for your hard work, well done, I totally get it!
You are so welcome!!! I ended up in a completely different place: https://wholenewmom.com/announcing-the-best-essential-oils-company-and-a-great-sale/
and they have a sale going on right now in case you would like to check them out.
Thank you! A friend loaned me the YL book including animal research, which I knew to take with a grain of salt because it has to be biased. I buy 4 oz and larger bottles to use on my chickens, about 150 on average. I could never afford YL Frankincense. I never knew about multiple distillations, so now I wouldn’t buy it anyway. I read a lot of unbiased animal studies using EOs, and Oregano with high carvacrol content is the most important for fighting coccidiosis, a horrible parasite that kills chicks and chickens in parasite paradise, Florida. I ended up buying a full 16 oz of Cavin Schon Oregano oil for under $60 on Amazon after I received an answer to the carvacrol content question from The Henna Guys who distribute Cavin Schon. It has a whopping 83% carvacrol. I have 6 or 7 different brands of oils including organic certified, all from Amazon during sales. I can smell chemicals even with shingles damage to my tongue that limits taste, and none so far have any “off” smell. It’s not luck. I read through every review to make an informed decision, and I’m happy you gave me more questions to ask companies.
Me sera de gran utilidad.
I went to the Doterra convention this year as an interested user for the last 4 years and talked to some of the scientists in house and 3rd party unbiased research scientists. Doterra releases the molecular constituent reports of every single e/oil batch sold by printing the # on the bottom of the bottle which can be looked up at sourcetoyou {dot} com by the Aromatic Plant Research Center (APRC). APRC has other oil company customers, they wouldn’t say who, but verified that Doterra is the only one of their customers that releases these reports to the public to prove their purity transparency. I’m still waiting for the following science discussed to be released on their blogs (regarding nanofluidic proteomic analysis of the oils which effectively proved the Doterra oils including the blends are proprietary to Doterra because of their uniqueness to quality) but they also presented studies done comparing other e/oil company”s essential oil efficacy. In one of the reports, it showed that the benefits touted of the oil actually had negative consequences and it wasn’t Doterra’s oils. When I’m looking at essential oils as food/plant medicine, I want consistent results and this further proved to me that Doterra’s quality and transparency is unmatched. If you want to look at the politics behind the YL vs Doterra debate, you’ll also find YL lost their cases in court and had to pay Doterra $1.9MM in legal restitution for dragging them to court & being unable to prove their case.
Hi there. I’m confused–you are saying that there were benefits touted, but the benefits or the oils had a negative effect? Not sure that this means. Thanks in advance.