Did Vaccines Cause My Son’s Autism? ~ Part One

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Do Vaccines Cause Autism? Come read what happened to my son and tell me what you think.

Vaccines and autism.

Two hot topics today.

I personally used to think nothing about vaccines.  Every kid just gets ‘em, right?

I used to think nothing about a lot of things.

All that changed with the birth of my first son.  And it didn’t stop there.

Now, I don’t purport to know everything about vaccines, nor everything about autism.

But I will share with you the truth about what happened to our son as it related to his vaccines and his autism so you can learn a little more about us.  About one part of our health journey – and it might get you thinking about vaccines yourself.


My oldest son was born 11 years ago at home, under the care of a very special doctor in Illinois, Dr. George Elvove.

I didn’t seek out a home birth doctor – but I ended up with one.  That’s the topic of another post :-).

Dr. Elvove was special in many ways.  He was one of only two doctors whom I found in Illinois who would deliver a baby at home.

And I think he saved us untold misery in our son’s life.

My son was a pretty big baby and his delivery was nothing short of very difficult horrible.  Almost impossible, in fact.

But I we did it.  (This is also a topic for another post–home birth and all that…)

At first, after he was born, things were pretty smooth.  My baby nursed well, and he was the highlight of my life–but things soon changed.

He started sleeping horribly, waking every 30 minutes, and after 10 of those 30 minute stretches (think total of 5 hours of sleep :-(), he was up.

Then, he was diagnosed with life-threatening food allergies.

Our pediatrician wisely told us that we had a very sensitive child and that we should proceed slowly with vaccinations.

So we did.

He got the HIB.  And that was about it.  Maybe one or two more.  But nothing else.

Our son grew, but gradually his peculiarities became evident.

He was described as:

  • a very intense baby
  • having an “other worldliness” about him
  • seeming to be “wise beyond his years

Those things were endearing, (except for the “intense” part at times), but there were other things that seemed “out of sorts.”

He:

  • liked to memorize (he memorized children’s books and hymns at age 2)
  • had OCD tendencies and repetitive behaviors
  • didn’t play with other children well, if at all

I brought all of these things up to several physicians, but no one thought we were dealing with autism.

Then at 6 years of age, everything changed.

Around our son’s fifth birthday, we started getting pressure from our new pediatrician (in Michigan) to move ahead with the vaccinations.  (This was the same physician who didn’t want to give me a referral to on oral surgeon when it seemed apparent that my son had a recurrent near fatal condition from a mercury filling.  See why I switched doctors?)  My husband and I read different articles and talked with friends at church and came to the conclusion that perhaps we were being scared for no reason and that we should move forward with the recommended vaccine schedule.

(See, a lot of the literature out there on autism and vaccines states that there really isn’t a link.  Most people who think that there is a link between vaccines and autism blame the MMR vaccine, which is given around 2 years of age.  The typical diagnosis of autism comes around age 2.  So a lot of parents [and some doctors] think that something is going on between vaccines [particularly the MMR] and autism.)

The mainstream medical community just thinks that it’s a coincidence.

I wasn’t sure.

I’d read a lot of books and articles about the supposed links between autism and vaccines, but I felt that perhaps I was worrying about nothing.

Surely all of these new autism diagnoses were just doctors over-diagnosing, right?  Surely they just wanted to prescribe drugs and make money somehow.

Right?

But then again, Dr. Elvove’s partner said that she thought there might be something to it.  She had been a vaccine / autism link skeptic, but said that she wasn’t so sure anymore.  Just too many parents had seen their children take a dramatic turn for the worse after an onslaught of vaccines – particularly the MMR.

Well, anyway, since we were well passed age 2, we thought that surely our son was old enough to handle a few shots now, right?

Maybe not.

Tomorrow, I will share with you Part Two of Did Vaccines Cause My Son’s Autism.

It’ll get you thinking – Just like it did me.

In the meantime, if you’d like to read more about our journey with autism, you might wish to read:

And here’s a good book to consider regarding autism, etc.:


Dr. Bock presents his hypothesis of the relation between a number of pervasive childhood disorders.  The end of the book includes a suggested “scaled back” vaccine schedule for those wishing to vaccinate, but wanting to be cautious in their approach to vaccinations.

Another that is lauded in the “natural autism community” is:

I personally think that the vaccines were too much for him and that they “threw him over the edge”.

UPDATE:  See this new study showing how monkeys given our vaccine schedule developed autism symptoms.  

What do you think about the vaccine / autism link?

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  1. Of course I know all to well that Vaccines do cause Autism. O firmly believe that autism is encephalitis- caused by Vaccinations.

    I too have a son with Autism. he was born fine, but then with each shot he got sick, and the last one at 17 months was the worst one.

    We are recovering thru diet- and interventions and medical.

    Good luck and prayers to you

    • Thanks for commenting, Tara. I am working on Nutritional Balancing with my son (and myself). I’d be happy to tell you more. Blessings to you in your journey.

  2. Looking forward to part 2. Thank you so much for sharing this. It is almost like you are in my brain typing the thoughts and situations that are very familiar to me.

  3. I appreciate this – I’ve heard so many contradicting things about vaccines. While we’ve not had the autism issue come up, we’ve had other problems: the hospital where baby no. 2 was born gave him an immunization WITHOUT my permission, saying something like, “you would have had to sign a waver if you didn’t want us to do it” (never mind the fact that they never told me they were doing it in the first place so I could decline it). Later, we opted to have them get certain immunizations, and all three ended up receiving the chicken pox vaccine, one we did NOT want them to have. At this point, I’m done. It was enough to send me over the edge when I already had concerns. Vaccines are good in that they’ve helped eradicate certain deadly diseases, but the things that have been added to them are, at times, even more harmful than the diseases against which they’re designed to protect. It’s very sad.

    • Thanks, Julie. I am so sorry that you had to experience that. It is really a shame. I wonder if you saw the post I shared on Facebook today – about a child given 4 shots w/o parents’ permission. I am very concerned about the chicken pox vaccine and the additives to vaccines as well. Thanks for sharing.

      • Thank you for the FB recommendation. I’ll go look that up; I’d missed it earlier. Interestingly, what you wrote about your child going into hysterics about getting his pants wet – I have a child just like that. While I’m fairly certain that he doesn’t have Autism, it made me wonder if, perhaps, there is something underlying rather than “K just being himself.” Gonna do some more research. As he matures, he does seem to be getting better, but I can sympathize with anyone who has a child who is completely and utterly inconsolable. My other two do not do this at all, so knowing how to handle him when he gets like this has been very difficult. Thank you for your encouraging words!

  4. Thanks for sharing your experience. I’m looking forward to the second part.

    We mostly followed the Dr. Sears alternate vaccination schedule with our son, but we haven’t given him the MMR, chicken pox, Hep A or Hep B vaccines yet. Our son is entering preschool in the fall and because of where we live the only way we can get out of getting the rest of these vaccines is to claim a religious exemption. I’m not sure whether we’ll do that, but it bothers me that we’re being forced to give him these vaccines in order to give him the education we want, particularly with the MMR and chicken pox vaccines.

    That said, everything I’ve read as far as scientific studies has shown that there isn’t a link between vaccines and autism. I did find a study linking the increased use of Tylenol to autism (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20030462) and we’ve stopped using Tylenol in our home.

    It’s hard to know what to do. This is something we’re really struggling with.

  5. This subject is so near and dear to my heart. I have two vaccine injured children.

    There haven’t been any scientific studies done when it comes to vaccines and autism. Wakefield made a link between inflammatory bowel disease and the MMR (not autism and the MMR). If a child’s gut is leaky it can cause major issues with brain function. Gut and Psychology Syndrome (GAPS) by Dr. Natasha Campbell McBride is a great read. Even the CDC is now saying that there is a link. That said, my main worry (before we totally stopped vaccinating our children) with vaccines never was autism.

    Very much looking forward to part 2.

  6. This subject is so near and dear to my heart. I have two vaccine injured children.

    There haven’t been any scientific studies done when it comes to vaccines and autism. Wakefield made a link between inflammatory bowel disease and the MMR (not autism and the MMR). If a child’s gut is leaky it can cause major issues with brain function. Gut and Psychology Syndrome (GAPS) by Dr. Natasha Campbell McBride is a great read. Even the CDC is now saying that there is a link. That said, my main worry (before we totally stopped vaccinating our children) with vaccines never was autism.

    Very much looking forward to part 2.

  7. My son was harmed by the vaccines, particularly the second MMR. Changed from day to night within a week of that shot. Just seeing that picture on the top of your post gives me the willies…

    So sorry you and so many of your readers are dealing with this. We are stronger together though. We are finding our way back using diet and homeopathy. Seen great progress since “clearing” the vaccines.
    Looking forward to reading the rest of your story.
    God bless and keep you,
    daisy

  8. Hi there! Thanks so much for coming to my blog today so I could meet you!
    I’m also among those that think there is a link between vaccines and autism. And the fact that the onslaught began a couple of decades ago was because of the thimerosal being added (mercury) as a preservative…and that they started combining more vaccines together. What are the chances that my healthy triplet boys (one not even identical to the other two) would suddenly after their 18mo vaccines lose speech, eye contact and socialness? Not very likely. The government and pharmaceutical companies will never allow the blame to go to them…can you imagine the lawsuits? We families could totally bankrupt them with settlements. Never going to happen.

    Anyway..don’t get me started …lol…can’t wait to read the rest of your thoughts!

    • Wow, Betsy. Your case is pretty incredible. I wonder if you’ve ever thought about going to the government – not that it’s within the statute of limitations now. I did read that there was one case of admission of a causal effect between vaccines and autism by the government – wasn’t in the case of a child who already had a mitochondrial disorder? I might be wrong.

      Anyway, I need to run – my son w/ Asperger’s has been having absolutely horrible anxiety. It’s been a really hard time for us. I know years ago I did a TON of research into this. Was it just after the thimerosal and combining that the onslaught of autism diagnoses started?

      I’ll hopefully have the other post up tomorrow. Take care.

  9. Looking forward to reading tomorrow’s post. There’s a lot of controversy over whether or not vaccines are linked to Autism. All I know is our personal situation seems to point to the MMR shot. When our son was born, I had a long conversation with his pediatrican about vaccines. I was a new mom and thought his reasoning sounded rational. I wish that I would have gone with my gut. He had all of his vaccines prior to age one and was developing normally. He was a happy baby that smiled, made eye contact, interacted with others, and he was saying momma dadda, etc. After he had the MMR shot, all of that stopped. It’s like someone had pressed a pause button and he regressed. When he was 15 months old, we were told by an early intervention program that he had red flags for Autism. We worked with C.A.R.D. a Speech Therapist, and an Occupational Therapist. We changed his diet we changed everything. We prayed we had him prayed over. Honestly prayer in our case seemed to make the biggest difference. He was silent for a year and didn’t start talking again until the night of his 2nd birthday. We finally found a more holistic pediatrician. She personally has walked this road herself with her son. She advised us to get a religious exemption. She also advised us to have blood work drawn before he needs the MMR booster to see if he has the antibiodies in his system. If he does, there’s no reason to get the shot. Makes me wonder how many kids don’t need to get the shot, and they just give it because it is protocol. He is doing much better now. I’m sure you all are sick of hearing the word “typically developing” child as much as I am. The whole situation angers me I don’t want anyone else to loose or almost loose their child. I want to do something, but I don’t know what to do.

    • Thanks for sharing, Tray. Autism is so hard. Even with my son who is high functioning. When he isn’t doing well is it just plain awful. And you are right – you just want to do something – to make your suffering worth something in someone else’s life.

      I don’t understand the MMR. The doctor who delivered my son would order the measles, mumps and rubella separate to not have such an onslaught on the child’s system. But once we moved I couldn’t find another doctor who would do that.

      I’d sure rather my child have the measles – or any of the other diseases. I know some kids died from those, but death happens from vaccines too. There is a local mom in my area who lost her child to vaccines. She’s a homeopathist now.

      Take care and thanks for sharing.

  10. Thank you for sharing your story. I am now following you and will continue following your story. I don’t have kids yet but I’m learning new things all the time and hope to prepare myself as best as possible. I recently watched a documentary called “Bag it” and it had very interesting info. It touched a bit on how plastics affect babies in the womb through the mothers as well as the BPA content in lotions and shampoos, the plastic lining in the baby formula, bottles, toys, plastic is in everything. It was crazy to me learning this because I had never questioned those products. I knew to be careful with cleaning supplies and I’m working my way to getting Greener and safer products. I had never given lotions or candles or fragrant products, the paper coffee cups (lined with plastic) a second thought. It’s scary not knowing what companies are putting in their products, and sad and alarming having to wonder how they affect us and our children in the long run.

    • You’re so right, Karla. There are SO many things that I never thought about until autism struck our family. Then adrenal / chronic fatigue. It’s all under scrutiny now. For more and more people as our world gets more toxic. Take care! Glad to “meet” you.

  11. I am reading the first book you mentioned right now :) I got into a very heated argument with a pediatrician about vaccines – we did vaccinate (we didn’t know any different) but the ped. was trying to give my son extra because his ‘green card’ wasn’t right and “it doesn’t hurt them, even if it’s already been given”.

    After we looked it up and got the right info, he told me I should be a lawyer. Ridiculous. Parents shouldn’t have to fight that hard to protect their kids. I switched pediatricians immediately.

    • Wow. Sounds like we have a lot in common – I assume you read my post on Mercury Fillings? I wonder if we were seeing the same pediatrician? I’d love to know whom you are seeing now. I have a few other book recommendations today. Boy, I haven’t been doing as much autism reading recently but it sure is fascinating.

      I think more and more we are going to have to work to protect our kids. It makes parenting a much more stressful job.

  12. The more I read about children ‘changing’ immediately after vaccinations, the more I am convinced that I will never allow them to be given to my child. (If I am ever able to have children). I will leave the country if necessary. I’m interested to hear about what intervention you are doing. Assuming that is part 2. :)

  13. Thank you for sharing. My first got all her vaccines, my second I didn’t take to the doctor again till he was 16 months. So he has had a few. But With our next I am opting for none. Just have to figure out how to get through all the school stuff with no shots.

    • Hi Sara. I know a lot of states have exemptions, but you will have to look and see what your state has. I have a reader who is in KY who is working on getting a lot done there if you end up needing someone to contact. I would be happy to put you in touch with her. Take care.

    • Marlene says:

      All states except Mississippi and West Virginia have vaccine exemptions. I have some websites where you can go on and print the exemptions out and give to the schools. I use them exemptions and have no problems with anyone at the schools. You can also look up your states statutes and keep them on file in case the school gives you a hard time.

  14. I disagree with you completely! There has been many studies done and nothing can link the two. My husband is in the med field and we have looked into this greatly. The affect of not getting vaccinated and coming down with something like whooping cough are more serious of an issue. But… that’s why we all have our own opinions and we all get to voice them, right? Thank heavens we live in AMERICA and no one forces us to do one thing or another. So nothing against you, and I hand it to you with the amazing work you are doing with your son, but I don’t link the two together!

    • It’s funny that you would mention whooping cough as being an issue. Two of my friends had whooping cough go through their families, babies and all, and not one of them has had serious repercussions. They didn’t even go to the hospital. Of course, they both believe in natural healing methods, too. Not only that, but my children were exposed to them, and not one of my children caught it, and although one has had his full vaccinations, none of the rest do. The medical field makes so much money off the vaccines, that they try to scare us with these “horrible” diseases, but I can find someone for just about every one that you can name, that survived just fine, WITHOUT vaccinations. Yes, people can die from the diseases, but they can die from vaccines, too. And like so many people have pointed out, there is an eerie connection for too many children between autism and vaccines. I’ve had my own struggle with a vaccine-related issue (not autism), and I will never vaccinate again. Not even the HepB.

  15. I’ve commented once before on this article. Today while researching migraine headaches, I came across this article on Dr. Mercola’s site. I thought you might find interesting. http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2005/05/04/amish-autism-part-one.aspx

    I hope it helps you find answers.

    • My issue with this Amaish study is that there has also been a genetic
      Ink shown in autism. My son has Asperger’s and studies have shown that children with 2 parents who tend to be more cerebral (ie. geeky :) ) tend to be more likely to produce a child with Asperger’s, which is why Silicon Valley is supposedly a hotbed of children with Adperger’s. I don’t think it’s that geeky parents vaccinate their children more. The same goes for the Amish – as they are a very self-contained community they would not be as likely to be exposed to genetic traits that may lead to autism. And of course, who is to say the children were properly evaluated? I would not see an Amish community as likely to co-operate with such a study as they are a very closed and self-protective community. The Amish ‘dent’ store I shop at does not even allow the staff to speak more than very basic politenesses with the non-Amish customers, so really such a study to me would be highly difficult. Really what would be a great study would be to follow un-vaccinated children to see if they had a different rate of autism. I wonder if that has ever been done?

      • Wow – my post is full of typos! I apologize! Amish, genetic link, Asperger’s….. Sorry!

      • Adrienne says:

        Hi Kathy. I only have a quick moment, but here are my thougths:

        1. the genetic link doesn’t guarantee cause. Nutrition and other things can turn on and off genes. Genetic weakness can mean there’s an issue but something else causes the expression.

        2. Geeky could be beginnings of autism.

        I say (and I say this gently), I have never said autism is caused by vaccines. I do think there’s a link and a lot of triggers.

        Thanks for sharing! Try looking for a study and see what you come up with!

      • Adrienne says:

        Quick internet search and LOTS to read. I haven’t gone through these, but let’s keep talking and learning!

  16. Shannon,
    You didn’t mentioned whether you and your husband have an autistic child. It seems that there are some people that think there is no link between autism and vaccines Are they the ones that have not experienced 24/7 care with a child with autism.

  17. I can not speak about autism but our daughter and her husband went to the mission field when she was 25. Before leaving they had many immunizations and after arriving on the field our daughter became very ill and severely gluten intolerant. Our son in law had to make the decision to bring them home. She went to a kinesiologist who found that she was severly overloaded with heavy metals, which are an ingredident of every shot and cause the immunization to stay in the body. After working to clear the metals she is healthy today and we are so thankful. I believe this heavy metal component is something that is really being overlooked as a possible cause of problems from shots.

    • Adrienne says:

      Lana – thanks for sharing. I am so sorry that happened to your daughter. I knew about mercury in shots and I know that aluminum is in quite a few. Are you aware of others? You are so right that this is being overlooked. Putting metals into our bodies like that is not a good thing. Especially those 2 metals. Take care.

      • As far as I know from our daughter’s experience all immunizations are loaded with heavy metals. After our daughter had gotten well she was in a bad car accident and hospitalized. While in the hospital and in ICU and unable to speak for herself she was given a flu shot which put her right back into all the previous problems.

  18. I definitely believe that vaccines had a part, if it wasn’t the sole cause of my son’s autism. With my first son, like you, I had no problems with vaccines. Was just something you did as a matter of course. With J, it just felt wrong and felt even more wrong when he made a horrific high pitched scream after receiving a shot. I was told this was a normal reaction and got my cute little mommy head patted by the all knowing doctor. Stupidly I didnt listen to my gut I listened to the experts while he continued to regress. Vaccines may help some but they are definitely not a one size fits all solution. Sometimes they cause more harm than good.

  19. thank you for sharing. i am horrified to hear you/he are having to go through this.

  20. If you’d like to see all of the ingredients that are actually in a vaccine,you can go to the CDC’s (Center for Disease Control) own website.

    Just go to this link and scroll down to “Vaccine Ingredients Sorted by Vaccine”, and then open the PDF.

    http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/additives.htm

    There’s things like “Monkey Kidney Tissue”, “Monosodium Glutamate”, “Formaldahyde”, “Chick Kidney Cells” etc.

    Their argument is that these are not in large enough quantities/trace amounts so they won’t do any harm.

    I believe every parent has to make their own decision on this important issue. The unfortunate part is that most parents don’t do any research at all on this topic. They’re told that their kids need these immunizations by their doctor, school etc. (that they’re “required”), so they just go ahead and get them without even questioning why they’re doing it.

    Also, on the list of ingredients is “MRC-5 Cellular Protein”, this is the continuous cell line that was developed from human fetal lung tissue of an aborted 14 week old male fetus over 40 years ago.

    As a person who believes in the sanctity of life, I have a problem injecting my kids with things that were derived from aborted fetuses.

    • Adrienne says:

      Thanks, Carrie. I did look at that site quite awhile ago. It was pretty horrible seeing everything that they use. Yesterday I was at the allergist talking about adjuvants (additives in shots, including allergy shots) and while our dr. is open to talking about my views on vaccines, etc., she was lauding the value of adding aluminum to allergy shots when needed in order to get a slower delivery of the allergen. Apparently it is only used in one type of shot in the US, but it is used more widely in Europe. Beats me – I thought Europe was more careful about stuff like that than we are.

    • Carrie, thanks for your post! I agree that parents don’t do the research! I’m a mother of four (our oldest is 5 and our youngest is 7 months) and I never researched vaccines until our 3rd baby. I assumed they were fine for our first 2 daughters. With my son, I had done some research and was uneasy giving him vaccines but did it anyway because of the pressure from everyone–friends and pediatrician! With our 4th, I have done so much research and am absolutely horrified at what it put in the vaccines–especially the unborn fetuses! I am adament that our youngest baby will NEVER have a vaccine and I wish I had better researched vaccines before! I’m so careful about what our kids eat and everything….it makes me sick knowing 3 of them have been vaccinated. So now I’m anti-government! ha! If the government thinks its a good idea….we won’t do it! lol. :)

      • Adrienne says:

        Amanda. Yes, I agree – the gov’t has gotten waaaay too big for its britches. Did you see my FDA posts? Here is one of them. I’m sure you won’t like what you read.

  21. Heather says:

    If Vaccines caused Autism, then why isn’t there a world-wide epidemic and why is it that only this generation seems to be effected? I’m sorry, but it sounds like your child already had strong tendencies towards Autism, if not full-blown Autism already and just hadn’t been diagnosed. With age comes many other hormonal & chemical changes that could have “put him over the edge” as you say.

    I think this kind of discussion scares new mothers away from vaccines which are LIFE SAVING. 100 years ago, many more children simply died of these diseases. Today, children of parents who refuse to vaccinate are spreading old diseases like Measles and putting others (like infants) at risk. It’s downright selfish.

    I know this is a hot topic and I have personally lost friends over it because I refuse to believe that not vaccinating your child, but feeding them fresh organic foods will keep them from being sick. It’s a load of bunk. There are REAL causes for Autism and the more we keep our attention on vaccines, the more time we waste finding the actual cause.

    • Adrienne says:

      Hello Heather.

      I can tell that you are frustrated. I am going to try to explain to you what I think and hopefully you will see that this comes from a heart that wants to talk w/ those who disagree with me.

      I think that you would really understand more if you were to read Gut and Psychology by Natasha Campbell McBride. It was after reading her book that I finally gained an understanding as to why this generation is being affected more than any other. She shows that the weaknesses we have are passed down from generation to generation and worsen each time. Then the weaknesses end up in a proliferation of autism (and I think other immune disorders as well). I also think that as our world has gotten more toxic we are passing more than just weaknesses down.

      If you read in the comments where the fraternal triplets all came down w/ autism after their vaccines it becomes a pretty compelling “hypothesis” that vaccines are involved here. It might be the immune assault – it might be the metals in them — it might be both. But of course tendencies are there as well.

      I don’t think it’s selfish to refuse to vaccinate. I do think that it is selfish for the government to cover up the truth that many families have been harmed and to have vaccines like the chicken pox vaccine made just for the convenience of parents who don’t wish their kid to be home for a sick day. (A mainstream dr told me that that is why it was made.)

      I also think it is greed that pushes a lot of these vaccines and it is for sure greed that lumps them all together in one shot and then takes 5 shots and gives them to a baby at one time.

      In this age of a proliferation of auto immune disorders we need to be more careful with what we are doing with our bodies and our food and our environment.

      Let me finish by saying that I am glad to hear your point of view, but I would encourage you to read the other commenters’ thoughts. I hope to share more in the future. Also, until someone has lived with a child with autism (it is quite difficult, let me assure you) and talked with experts and read journals, articles, and books on the topic and seen metals come out in urine and hair samples (metals like cadmium, aluminum and mercury) then it will be hard for that person to understand how we feel and think. But please trust me – something is going on here with vaccines and it is not OK to force them on everyone.

      I hope that you will take that book out of the library and give it a quick read. I think you will see a little bit of what I mean.

      Oh – by the way – I don’t think that just organic foods will keep my kids from being sick. Whoever is saying that is misguided.

      Hope to see you around again.

      Take care,
      ~Adrienne

      • Marlene says:

        If we give our bodies the nutrition it needs to function at its fullest, it will have a better chance of fighting off these illnesses. Illness is one way the body detoxifies itself. YOu will never get rid of all illness by using nutrition. Using high dose vitamin c, you can cure whooping cough faster than antibiotics. Studies show that using antibiotics for whooping cough prolongs the illness for 11-14 days. High dose vitamin C can cure it in just days. High dose vitamin D3 (notice D3 not just D), can fend off many different illnesses and even some cancer. Using nutrition, you can cure cancer and MS. Dr. Terry Wahl’s had MS and was in a wheelchair. She cured herself by using food. You can cure many things with nutrition, but again you can still get sick. The key is in knowing how to cure the illnesses instead of using a false sense of security of vaccines that do not work anyway.

        Two virologists from Merck, sued Merck for doctoring the efficacy studies on the mumps vaccines.

        The Journal of American Medical Association says that Gardasil is not effective.

        Across the board, you can find info on each and every vaccine and the ineffectiveness and dangers of them.

        It saddens me that so many people are still blinded by the CDC and are enamored by the “wonderful” vaccines and are blind to us parents who have seen the damages done to our children.

    • Marlene says:

      There is a World wide epidemic. NUmbers have gone from 1 in 10,000, to 1 in 150, to last years 1 in 88 to this years 1 in 50. These numbers only show boys age 8. This doesn’t show anyone diagnosed at a later age, anyone who already has it after age 8, girls etc. The true numbers are 1 in 29. Parents around the world are reporting the same things. Kids are fine and meeting all milestones until shots at or around 12-15 months old then regression into autism. It isn’t just an American phenomenom.

      I would also like to address the comment “100 years ago, many more children simply died of these diseases.” If you look at statistics, this isn’t true. Vaccines didn’t erradicate or protect us from anything. I have more of this in another comment i made on here. Also, statistics show that the majority of those in outbreaks are already vaccinated. It is this fear and these lies being told that sends parents into panic mode and believing vaccines are what saves us. Sanitation is one of the major events that saved us. I wish more people would do the in depth research and really learn the truth.

      • I think the info and data is very confusing and I don’t say not to vaccinate at all, but I am concerned about how many there all and about the additives to them, and how many children are given.

  22. Heather says:

    Adrienne,

    I have read many of these comments and that is what spurred me to comment myself as there weren’t too many in disagreement with you.

    To your point about the Chickenpox Vaccine, my husband never had the Chickenpox as a child (who knows how he missed that), but if he were to contract it now as an adult it could kill him as he already has severe asthma. As soon as the vaccine came out, he got it. So, no…I don’t think it’s just to keep kids from missing school – these vaccines are there save lives and increase the quality of life for all of us.

    Also a single story about triples who still share many genetic markers coming down with Autism isn’t all that compelling either. They also share the same home environment.

    To your point about the Cadmium, Mercury, etc. I grew up in a town that had a Superfund Site that was cleaning up Nickle Cadmium out of our own backyards. The soil was literally green and had been that way for decades. Guess what? No Autism.

    I appreciate that you have read many resources about this topic, but not everything that is written down is truth. The whole nexus of this vaccine-autism myth was debunked many years ago and the doctor who began it lost his license.

    So often in these discussions I get the “you wouldn’t understand because you don’t have a child with Autism” rebuttal. That just isn’t true. I understand that parents of Autistic children are desperate for an answer…but mostly a cure. I understand that people are making a lot of money off of desperate parents like yourself by writing anecdotal & terrifying books about the possible causes of Autism.

    So, no, I don’t Trust you on your stance on vaccines because your perspective is not objective. Want to help find a cause and a cure? Stop writing things that will scare parents to death and use your blog to raise some funds for research that will bring about a hopeful outcome.

    • Adrienne says:

      Heather, I think that’s great you had the option to vaccinate your husband and I was already aware of issues w/ the chicken pox in adults. I am just telling you that my child’s pediatrician was extremely mainstream and he said that that is why it was developed–pressure from moms who didn’t want to miss work. That’s not a good reason for me.

      I think that the triplets story is compelling. Granted, not a scientific study, but very compelling. All 3 wouldn’t get it at the same time from just the environment, in my opinion. Maybe you should just contact the author herself and talk with her about her sons’ autism. Her site is listed next to her name.

      Regarding your statement about no autism from where you grew up, that is why I am saying the Gut and Psych book is important to read. Just because one generation doesn’t get autism doesn’t meant that a trigger doesn’t cause it. It just might mean that the weaknesses are passed down and then the next generation gets it.

      There is more to the Wakefield story than you know. The vaccine lobby is huge. I can’t begin to state in these comments the harmful things that have been done to me and my family by doctors, surgeons and even by one alternative dr (whom I caught before the damage was done). But here is link to a video of Dr. Wakefield. There is very interesting data in the comments that you can read for yourself.

      Regarding the “you wouldn’t understand” statement. Heather, I am going to have to ask you to be more polite in your comments or I will have to ask you not to comment here any longer. You can’t understand the countless hours of research. You can’t understand when we see things that we know are harming our children. I was on the “other side” once and I didn’t understand and I thought heavy metals, vaccines and all of it were a bunch of “hooey.” But they are not.

      There is money going to research – a little. But mainly money goes to drug companies, and things like Komen, which I will post on soon. And meanwhile, us hard working natural moms are healing our children little by little with our hard earned savings, our research into natural cures and a lot of time.

      Again, I appreciate dissenting viewpoints, but not hostile comments. Please be more careful in the future.

      Sincerely.

      • Adrienne and Heather, You might be interested to know that when I was younger I helped run a daycare center. One of the parents whose child I cared for was part of the team that worked on the chicken pox vaccine, she did only research. It’s original intention was for children and adults who had an immune-compromised system such as cancer, or HIV. The developers never really intended it for the general public since they didn’t know how long the immunity would last and chicken pox in adulthood is far worse than in childhood. Imagine my wonder when just a few years later they wanted to vax my newborn against chicken pox…
        Ann

  23. @ Adrienne,
    Thanks so much for starting this discussion.

    @ Eryn- Please don’t feel like your only option is to vaccinate your children in order to get them into school. I feel like this is a common misconception among parents.

    You can go to the National Vaccine Information Center and look up your states laws concerning vaccines. Here is the link:

    http://www.nvic.org/Vaccine-Laws/state-vaccine-requirements.aspx

    Every state that I see has a “medical” and “religious” exemption. Some states even have a “philosophical” exemption.

    I have a religious exemption on file right now with my son’s school.

    What religion am I? It doesn’t matter. Why? Because on the exemption form it doesn’t even ask what religion I am. Why doesn’t it ask? Probably because it’s none of their business and the schools don’t want to get slammed with a lawsuit by prodding into people’s personal religious beliefs.

    My point is that you don’t need to change religions in order to use a religious exemption form. It’s none of the school’s business what religion you are, and they shouldn’t even ask you. If they do, just simply tell them it’s none of their business.

    The only area you might run into difficulty with using a religious exemption form is if you are trying to get them into a private school. Private schools seem to be able to set their own policies on this issue since they are privately funded. But, a public school is funded by your tax dollars, so it’s a different situation.

    Hope this helps.

    • Thanks, Carrie. Our state only allows religious exemptions. I just looked at the form and it appears that there really isn’t much to the religious exemption form. I’m just not sure that’s the route we want to take.

  24. I think it’s important to not buy into conspiracy theories. The guy who proposed this theory was later discredited and lost his license to practice and issued a public apology for starting this whole thing. The dangers of not immunizing are just beginning to surface – whooping cough, major outbreaks of measles on college campuses – some of these are life-threatening! I understand the fear and concern out there, but really, I think a lack of critical thinking skills combined with fear and gullibility results in a whole lot of slippery-slope thinking that ends up in unprotected communities. Autism in and of itself is a complicated umbrella of diagnoses. It would be difficult to pin an autism diagnosis on a vaccine! Especially given that autism can mean one of many under-studied conditions. This is a complicated matter and we over-simplify it by even using the term ‘Autism’ in a static way – assuming it means one particular thing, when it means a whole variety of things to a whole variety of people.

    • Adrienne says:

      Sarah,
      I don’t have much time to comment but check out the link I posted earlier in the comments. There’s more going on here I think. I am concerned about unvaccinated people too. I agree autism is complicated. Let’s keep talking- but w/ respect.

      I am not trying to pin autism on a vaccine. It’s important to read what I am saying…… Let’s all be good listeners and slow down with our comments here. We can all learn a lot from each other and help make good decisions for us and for our kids.

    • The co-author of Wakefield’s paper was just exonerated by the British Medical Association for ANY wrong-doing. Wakefield has filed defamation lawsuits against the journalist (Deere) and the doctor (Godlee) who were his accusers. Just because he was accused of fraud in no way means that he actually committed fraud. Only time will unravel what really happened, but I believe that he is well on his way to being exonerated too.

  25. I firmly believe there is a connection with vaccines and Autism. I have spent the last six and a half years researching it myself.

    When our two oldest kids were little I thought it was the LAW to vaccinate them. When I became pregnant with our twins, I started reading everything I could get my hands on. Our 6 year old twins and our almost 3 year old have had 2 vaccines each. And even moderated, one of my twins had an adverse reaction to an DTaP shot. The only way I will ever give them the MMR shot is if I can get it in three separate shots spread out over 3 years. So far, no one can accommodate.

    I wish more people knew about the toxins and poisons in each vaccination recipe. Would you give your child a tablespoon of aluminum, formaldehyde, or ethylene glycol (the main ingredient in antifreeze)? Would you?

    Vaccines create a steady stream of revenue for pediatricians, our government and the drug makers. In 2001 the human vaccine market generated over 7 BILLION dollars globally. Vaccinations are not LAW. The schedule is a RECOMMENDATION. We are conscientious objectors for the purpose of school/mothers day out.

    The best book I have read is What Your Doctor May NOT Tell You About Children’s Vaccinations by Stephanie Cave, MD.

    I am not anti-vaccination, but I am about following my own schedule and the schedule that I think best suits the individual needs of each of my children.

    • Adrienne says:

      I’ve never read that book, Crystal, but I’ve heard of it. I should get a copy – writing it down to look for it at the library. You clearly are a very informed parent. Thanks for sharing. They used to do MMR separate in IL when my son was young, but once we moved to OK and MI we couldn’t get it that way any longer. What a shame. I would have paid the extra for it gladly.

  26. I am weary on an internet study b/c they are not done properly and scientifically set up, double blinded, etc. Actually if you look into the research that is emgerging that says austism is genetically linked. They are narrowly down the possible region as to where the mutations are occurring. The highest incidence of austism is located in the area surrounding silcone valley. an area that houses the brightest and smartest people. Back in the day when vaccines were first given, people didn’t magically become autistic. And some of the brightest minds in the world from the past generations were austic… bethoven, einstein, possibly thomas edison. all of these men actually could not function in the real world, they never slept, and tended to keep to themselves. If they would have been tested they would actually be autistic. But tests didn’t exist back then. Many of them never got vaccinated. So the link between the 2 don’t exist. In a world where we are over stimulated with technology it tends to bring out symptoms. Being austic isn’t a bad thing, it just means you are super creative in one area and not others. I think many of us if tested would probably be on the low end of the scale of autism. I know I would, I can’t concentrate in certain situations, I have bouts of not sleeping which usually mean I become intensely creative, I can only wear jewelry for a certain period of time but then have to take it off b/c its too much stimulation, I also didn’t talk until a later age than most kids. I had a hard time socializing with kids my age for a long time too. But give up vaccinations? Never! I would rather not die from pertussis, whopping cough, measles, polio diseases that could kill people to this day. None of these diseases are eradicated and still exist in the everyday world we just don’t know it b/c we are vaccinated. The things that need to change are the ways in which kids are handled in the school system, to promote and thrive with each talent autistic children have. Being autistic isn’t bad, knowing that I am slightly on the scale I am fine with it but I am doing so much with my life, I have adjusted, and now I am pursuing curing cancer everyday and grateful for what I was given. And I am glad my mom choose to give my vaccines.

    sincerely,
    a scientist

    • Adrienne says:

      Lauren, first of all, I am glad you took the time to comment. However, from all of the intense comments, and apparent misreading of my post, I think I am just going to have to write another post about this (I was thinking about it anyway :-)). There is so much research in so many directions about autism. There are causes and triggers most likely. Just because someone has a genetic mutation doesn’t mean that the mutation will express itself in a certain way. This is clearly a very difficult topic to discuss and there are strong feelings everywhere. I am trying to open to door for talking respectfully about it.

      I will also say that while certain aspects of autism are a gift, there is a real difference between those w/ Asperger’s and those with non-verbal autism. There is still “good in the bad” that is severe autism, but I am sure that the parents of those children who are still in diapers at age 7 and wipe their waste on the walls will say that many aspects of autism are intensely difficult.

      There is so much I could say – so I will have to reserve it for a post.

      Finally, I appreciate that you are “a scientist,” but of course, you know that scientists disagree on all sorts of things. And (I mean this just to make a point – I am not trying to be rude) I am a Phi Beta Kappa, who was Pre Med from the University of Virginia, and my husband (who agrees with me on all of these points) has 3 advanced degrees (including a PhD)- so we’re not intellectual slouches. And anyway, even not-so-well educated folks can be dead right about a lot of things.

      Hope you’ll stick around for the next post. I really am glad to talk about all of this more but my family is calling…

  27. I have twin boys that I’ve vaccinated. I feel that it was the right decision for us and I’m very torn on how I feel about other people choosing to not vaccinate their children. Although, if they were to get diagnosed with autism later (they’re 18 months old now) I’m not sure how I’d feel about my decision to vaccinate. I’m so glad that there are people like you, Adrienne, who can present their story and the things they’ve learned in this way. I think this is a VERY complicated issue that doesn’t have one answer. I don’t think it’s as black and white as vaccines cause autism, case closed. I think it’s a lot more complicated than than and it may in fact be that some kids have it and vaccines (or other things) “push them over the edge”. I think it’s so important to explore this issue and share with others what we’ve learned.

    People are very passionate about this, and I understand that. I think most people tend to get a little “mama bear” when they feel that their decision whether or not to vaccinate comes under attack. As somebody who did vaccinate, I can’t help but get upset when I see hateful comments like “vaccines are evil, people who vaccinate their children are stupid” etc. I think it puts people who did choose to vaccinate on the defensive and then they judge this issue along with the parents that have presented their argument in a very rude way. I also think the same is true for parents who choose not to vaccinate, they feel attacked and defensive when they’re told they’re putting their children in danger by not vaccinating them.

    I know that I, along with many other moms, want to learn more about this so we can make informed decisions, and this is so much easier when people post their stories and are willing to address people’s questions, concerns, opposing views, in a respectful manner. Obviously, I know it’s not as simplistic as “if we all got along, we’d find a cure” but I love that most of the people who left comments were respectful of other’s views. I love that you addressed people who felt differently than you in a calm, polite way.

    Sorry to get so long winded, it just bothers me when people are so ugly to each other when all we want is what’s best for our child. I look forward to reading more on your blog, checking out the book that you listed, and visting some of the links that you and others who commented have left. Oh, and I saw in one comment that you went to UVA, I actually live in Charlottesville now-what a small world!

    • Adrienne says:

      Hello, Samantha! What a blessing to read your comment. You spoke what I feel very eloquently. I really have a desire to talk about the “tough issues” with respect so that hopefully we can learn from each other.

      How fun that you are in Charlottesville! I was just corresponding with an old housemate on Facebook this morning! I miss it. You are a blessed woman. Say “hi” to the corner and The Lawn for me :-). I still have a number of friends there. Some are employed at different churches. Did you see the news of the poor young man who died climbing the Science Bldg at UVa? His father and I went to school together. So sad.

  28. Thank you for this post. After watching Vaccine Nation and our friend’s baby dying after vaccination, we chose not to vaccinate our daughter. She is thriving. I feel horrible about the persecution that doctors such as Wakefield go through, for telling the truth.

    • Adrienne says:

      Thanks for sharing. I haven’t taken the time to look into everything about Dr. Wakefield. If you have good information on what has happened I would appreciate your forwarding it to me.

      Thank you.

  29. I personally believe that there is a connection.

  30. I have a hard time believing that there is any cut or dried answer to the autism question. Autism in itself is a spectrum disorder, so while your son’s triggers could very well be linked to the vaccinations–I don’t see that it is reasonable to make a blanket statement.

    I say this as I have watched my 3 nephews display and then become officially diagnosed with Autism. The oldest, well there were issues even in utero–we knew he would be special. He is termed “high functioning” but he is everso more than that, he is earnest and honest, wants to help others, smart as a whip–just a wonderful young man.

    His younger brother came along as a surprise, and was a cheerful, bubbly boy, cuddly with momma–until around his 18 month mark. This guy has battled with Autism more sharply than his older brother, but he is still so sweet. My sister has really worked with him to improve their communication over the years.

    The youngest is my special buddy. I watched as he entered this life and enjoyed special moments as he was a toddler. I remember one day babysitting him and saw him presenting behaviors that are earmarks of the spectrum disorder. It broke my heart. This little guy is still my buddy–whenever I visit he gives me big hugs and sits in my laps and cuddles.

    I applaud my sister for choosing to have a large-ish family (by today’s standards) even though her oldest 2 were already special needs. After her oldest she did some family research and discovered a mercury issue–and STOPPED having vaccinations for her children. Besides the oldest, none of her other children have had vaccinations. That didn’t stop the Autism though.

    • Adrienne says:

      Alison,

      I appreciate your taking the time to share.

      I hope to write more on this. It’s clearly a topic that there are a lot of opinions on. Blessings on the people in your life dealing with this condition. It can be a blessing, but it is hard.

  31. Thank you for this very important
    post. I’m a grandma now and find
    all the shots the kids are getting
    to be a bit much. My daughter has
    been able to stall most of the
    vaccines since she homeschools
    and is not forced to give them
    to her children as public
    schools request… she too is
    afraid of what can happen.
    I’m afraid autism might really be
    from some of the new vaccines
    we did not get as kids….?
    She wants her kids to get chicken
    pox and not autism…the risk is too
    much..
    Wanted to wish you and your
    family all the best.
    Sandy

  32. Thanks for this fascinating post! We don’t have any autism in my family, but I’m still hesitant about vaccines in general. My son is two and hasn’t had his MMR. We were doing the alternative schedule from Dr. Sears’s book, but we weren’t able to get separate vaccines for the MMR. I saw you had mentioned in an earlier comment that when you lived in Illinois you could have gotten them, but now you can’t. I live in Illinois, and it’s not available here anymore either because the manufacturer has stopped making the separate vaccines. So now if you want any part of the MMR, you have to get the whole thing. Dr. Sears has some information about that on his website. I don’t know at this point what I will decide. :/

    • Hi Luci. You could check w/ Dr. George Elvove in Libertyville, IL. I don’t know what options are available due to what you have told me, but it’s worth asking. I know – this is all a problem. Blessings as you try to decide.

  33. Interesting. The more kids we have, the fewer vaccines we get! Thanks for linking up to Healthy 2Day Wednesday! Hope to see you back tomorrow! :)

  34. I love your “other worldly, wise and intense” observations. I work with 2 autistic little girls at my volunteer job every weekend and those girls are SMART! But, unfortunately, not in a way that will lead to their success in school. They are observant and super clever……
    I worked in the veterinary field for years and the vaccinated puppies were the ones to survive the annual parvo outbreaks that sickened and killed so many puppies. However, I do believe that yearly vaccinations are overkill and I won’t do it to my pets. My (late) horse was extremely sensitive and reacted to vaccines and was permanently injured by one vaccine in particular. I quit giving them to her also. Although I never had any problems with vaccines in my human children I did see both the positive and negative sides of vaccines in my animals. As parents we HAVE to trust our gut. I have also “fired” my pediatrician in the past. Oh, that was good riddance…..

    • Thanks for sharing, Christine. Interesting to have vaccine observations from a veterinarian as well. My “firing” was good riddance too. I should probably go back and share my post with him now. Both of them–the one on vaccines and the one on mercury.

  35. Adrienne check out Infowars, they have some exclusive interviews with him, where he discusses what happened and where he is now, in terms of fighting the huge arsenal of government officals and doctors who claim he committed fraud. The sad, sad thing is that they literally framed him, left out important facts ( such as an additional expert brought in to confirm the findings, etc). Such as sad story.

  36. My son is 25 and was 23 when he was diagnosed with PDD/Aspergers Syndrome. I found your blog on Lolly Jane Boutique and I am a new subscriber. Come by and visit. I really don’t know what to think. He was diagnosed at 8 as having ADHD, so all of these years that’s what we thought he had and it wasn’t until recently that I found an article on preemies being diagnosed with Autism. He was a preemie at 2lbs. 1oz. So I started reading about it and realized some of the things that he does sounded like high functioning Autism and had him diagnosed. His dad is the same way(I am no longer married to him)so over the years I thought well he’s different just like his dad. My son loves, eats, breaths, lives music. I never understood why the passion was so strong for it, like obsessed but when I was reading that article on high functioning I finally understood and was relieved. Thank you for the info.

    • Thanks for stopping by, Marisa. It’s fascinating, isn’t it? My husband is “different” as well, but not as profoundly so. And we all are “different”, but the autistic ones are real outliers.

      You’re welcome and I hope to see you around again. Blessings….

  37. Hi Adrienne, thanks for your personal experiences and perceptions.
    I have 3 children (3.5yr girl, 2yr boy, & 3mo boy) and my oldest has ASD. She receives funding and goes to a special preschool 5 mornings a week. She is doing amazingly well! My husbands brother and niece also have ASD.
    We are a pretty “crunchy” family and tend to be natural in our lifestyle choices. I had home births (one was an accidental unassisted birth) with my 2 younger children and we parent much along those lines (question the norm, objectively look at motives of those who create the “norm”, weigh the pros and cons, etc). I have a degree in dietetics and my husband is has a masters in aerospace and a PhD in biomedical engineering (computer diagnosis of strokes). I say all of this so you know where I’m coming from.
    Autism is such a broad spectrum disorder I find it hard to believe that there is one cause. I do believe that vaccines can be a catalyst. I think the causes are multifactorial – a bunch a small things occur at once creating a different outcome – it’s like dominos. This is also the common explanation to facial clefts. My 2yr old has a complete bilateral cleft lip and palate. So I fully believe in the multifactorial concept.
    My first two kids have been immunized so far and I still immunize my children after weighing the pros and cons. The schedule for immunization is different in Canada and we have the option of a different schedule and separation of vaccines. From an early age I think my daughter was different. Not in obvious ways, but looking back I can see it. She had a very sensitive system from the beginning. Waters mineral content bothered her stomach and she could only have special bottled water. The GFCF diet has done wonders for her. From what I’ve read, some children with autism have very sensitive systems. It would make sense that an injection of harsh chemicals would bother them more than others – their bodies are less able to process the vaccine. Children who may already be predisposed to autism my display more symptoms after receiving them.

    I think that the changes in the DSM may help group those with autism better so that research can be more targeted. Maybe vaccines affect a certain group of those with autism. Right now the umbrella term of “autism” is too broad to assign it one cause. Saying autism is caused by vaccines is just as much a scare tactic as saying that your child will die of measles if they don’t get vaccinated. Parents really need to asses the research presented and make an educated decision. I don’t doubt that vaccines affect some children more than others. Its hard to tell if the relationship is causation or correlation.
    Also – I read an interesting article connecting autism and the use of pitocin. With my daughter I had buckets of pitocin during my inducement so it’s interesting to look at that connection. — sorry this turned into a novel. I could write a whole book on my experiences and views :)

    • Thanks, Kate. Very interesting observations. The pitocin thing is interesting as well but I would see that as an extra toxin. I had an all natural home birth. I so hope to write more on this later. Take care.

  38. Thanks for your stories, I do not have children but hope to try soon and working in schools with severely autistic children led me to look into it. I wondered why some children affected so severely and others I knew not. I can understand the environmental toxicity argument as I had my own experience with illness that could not be diagnosed which led to tests for a mixture of things heavy metals/intolerances/gut problems. Everyone around me was skeptical but I had no option but to consider it as the mainstream doctors and specialists and their tests had no answers for me and I had deteriorated so much I could not work. So I followed the program of diet, minerals and vitamins and in a year or so I did improve. As much as people like to be skeptical as a society we need to be more open to how our environment might affect our health. If vaccines/gluten/enviromental toxins are exacerbating or causing any symptoms in any of our kids let’s do whatever we can to make it better for them. Parents know their children the best your anecdotal evidence is enough for me.

  39. Jennifer says:

    Although it would be nice to have “official studies” to “prove” this to all those who so forcefully deny vaccines to be dangerous… In reality, what more STUDIES do they need than the thousands of personal experiences from families who actually go through it for themselves…? Including 2 of my children, one of which ended up with Aspergers after his shots. :/

  40. To the Parents that had have kids in public school, it is not true that you need a shot records.That’s what my husband and I thoughts before our baby was diagnosed of low platelet. Hub’s found Kent Hovind DVD, we bought and watched it and there is a lot of TRUE information. That’s where we found out that parents have right to sign a waver that you do not want a shot for your kids and we did since 4-5 yrs ago. You ask the school front desk for a waver.

  41. HI, there is still some confusion around this.. the research that led to people blaming MMR was in 2011/2012 withdrawn by the original authors,they apologised for getting it so wrong ….and for what they had put parents through…unfortunately the signs of autism often start to show around the same age as the injection…so it got blamed…any Dr who still pushes that old propaganda is way out of date…
    There is some new research linking autistic add adhd behaviour around that age to bisphenol A plastics…I think that is the right word…but further research is needed…they looked at exposure while in utero to that plastic…found in bottles and in lining tin cans…hope it helps…

    • I have not looked into this in great detail, as my aim has not been to prove a link but only to share my experience. At times, and with certain things, I am willing to state that I believe something unequivocally, but not typically. In this case, I will share that there is some interesting info on Mercola’s site about this that I would love to know your thoughts on.

      I do know that I personally have spoken with Temple Grandin and asked her about the link b/t autism and vaccines and she thinks that the research to this day is flawed and that the proper research hasn’t been done yet. I think she is a genius and is likely right.

      I think there are tons of factors and I don’t mean to be harsh about this but BPA is for sure not the only thing going on here. Environmental toxins, genetic tendencies, assaults to the immune system (like vaccines), diet….all of these, in my mind are causes. I hope to write more on this soon. That being said, I don’t like BPA :). I’d be interested in seeing the research but I do think that the pharma companies don’t want to admit a link of vaccines. Just like a lot of folks don’t want to admit the link b/t celiac disease and mental disease. I hope to write on that as well.

  42. Thanks for this post, Adrienne. I want to introduce the idea of NOT vaccinating to a few couples close to me who have babies/young children. Would you recommend a particular website, article, or book? I don’t know if they would read a whole book at this time, but it would be good to know too what are trustworthy resources in the sea of information/opinions out there. Thanks!

  43. im not discounting the vaccine shot. you should question stuff.
    i saw something on bill mayer show. it said that 90% of fish are mislabeled. meaning they can come from anywhere. also meaning if you eat it there is a possiblity it has mercury in it. maybe its the vaccine, maybe its the fish and maybe its both.
    on a not so good topic, point of the vaccine is to prevent major sickness. we do those thing so we dont windup like 3rd world countries being wipeout by sickness. we take for granted what medicene has done for us. one day it will come down to this one kid who didnt get his shot and causes a uncontroled small pox epidemic. you should not aviod getting shots, its better to have autims then be death.
    sorry for your pain and i wish you well. sorry if this is insensitive.

    • Thanks for your comment. I am not saying all autism is caused by vaccines and I am not saying that vaccines are what cause it. I am saying that vaccines are full of things that they ought not to contain and that they give too many of them. I am “on the fence” about what vaccines are truly useful and necessary. Clearly things are out of control as far as the amount, how many we give at one time and what is in them. Thanks.

  44. You are right, Daisy. There is strength in “meeting” each other and sorting through the info and sharing success stories. And failures. I look forward to sharing more tomorrow – hope I can get the post done. Otherwise it may be Monday :). Blessings ~Adrienne

  45. That’s strange when a post hits a nerve like that, isn’t it? Hope to hear your thoughts tomorrow.

  46. I think the issue is really complicated, Eryn, but I think it’s crucial to read the comments here, do digging around and then you just have to do what you think is best. This for sure isn’t a perfect world and after a point we’re left with what we are left with. There is some compelling info out there about a link to autism from vaccines. I think it’s crucial to look at that.

  47. Thanks, Adrienne. I did read the comments here, and it does give me pause. I wish I felt like we had more of a choice as far as vaccines go where we live. If you don’t want to homeschool your kids or change religions, it seems like your only choice here is vaccination.

    I also wish the separate measles, mumps and rubella vaccines were still available. The last time I checked, they had stopped manufacturing it. It would make me more comfortable if we could give them one at a time.

    Are you aware of any scientific studies that have shown a link between autism and MMR?

  48. Eryn, I am not aware of any studies. If you do an internet search, you come up with a bunch of links about it being true and then about that claim being debunked. I am not sure what to make of all of it but I have a reader who is working on a vaccine awareness program in KY so I will email her. Also, I think just common sense says that immune assaults on children with damaged systems are not wise. I hope to write more soon. There is a little more that I would like to share.

  49. Thanks, Adrienne.